The most anticipated day of the fifteenth of November has come to pass. This was the day that the OpenKore (OK) team announced that they would launch an updated bot that will hopefully penetrate the anti-bot patched by Level Up (LU) at Philippine Ragnarok Valkyrie Server. However, according to what I’ve read on Darkmoon and Ragnaboards, the bot update failed to live up to it’s expectations.
Image courtesy of nomm.com
It still gets disconnected every 30 seconds or just like the previous version. However, there are un-announced developments that transpired and LU did a really clever move today. Find out after the jump!
Before I continue, let us do a recap of the actions done by both LU and OK these past days.
What Level Up Did
Released an anti-bot patch on November 7 (+1 score for LU)
This proved to be successful. Bots couldn’t stay in the server for more than a minute and are forced to disconnect everytime. However, a downside was that party/guild/private chats experienced a major delay, and guild seiges were affected too.
Massive Midgard Police recruitment (+1 score for LU)
LU has finally put a foot forward on increasing their Midgard Police ranks. Last I heard there were more than 150 applicants. Let’s just hope that the accepted applicants deserve the title.
Permanent Banning of all Caught Bots (+1 score for LU)
Now if you thought giving the bots a hard time connecting was all LU can do, think again. A lot were shocked when LU announced that they would be banning all caught bot accounts. And the basis for banning was if an account tried to login “a thousand times” at Valkyrie Server. Naturally, all those who still turned on their bots despite the patch, have been branded as bots and are all going to be banned, permanently.
Final Judgment Day Score for LU: 3 Points
What Open Kore and the Botting Community Did
Made an Announcement to Stop Botting (No score for OK)
When the anti-bot patch was enabled, OpenKore guru kaliwanagan posted an announcement at Darkmoon boards telling everyone to stop running their bots while a new bot update was being created. The update was slated to be launched on November 15, the Judgment Day. Sadly, the members of the Darkmoon boards comprise only a small portion of the Valkyrie Server botting community. So the announcement did not reach far.
Unintentional DOS (Denial-of-service) on Valkyrie (+1 for OK)
With thousands of bot accounts trying to login simultaneously, this caused the delays in the party/guild/private chats and made it a hard time for players to login even manually. Random real players even get disconnected once in a while. This probably made LU think twice if they were right in implementing the anti-bot patch.
Released an Updated Bot on Nov 15 (No score for OK)
As announced, OK released the latest bot that will hopefully run normally on the patched Valkyrie Server. However, this proved to be a failure. It still disconnects every 30 seconds just like the previous version. OK Dev team announced that they will work again on another update.
Final Judgment Day Score for OK: 1 Point
LEVEL UP WINS THIS BATTLE! But the war continues…
Post-Judgment Day
Now this is where the plot thickens. Sometime on late Judgment Day (Nov. 15) it looks like Level Up disabled the anti-bot patch as I’ve read on the Darkmoon boards that bots can indeed enter the server again just like last normal times.
Now why would LU do such a thing? Why would they turn of the successful anti-bot patch?
Whoever in the LU hierarchy commanded this move is very clever. Why? Here are my theories:
1. The high levelled bots and all other bot accounts have been permanently banned so even if the bots can enter again, the botters would have to start from scratch again and make new characters to bot. This wouldn’t be much of a threat to game integrity as of now, not until the bots become high levelled again.
2. They want to give the real players their freedom of speech back. And true enough, as of late Nov. 15, party chats and guildchats don’t get delayed anymore. In the meantime, I believe LU will try to address the chat delay bugs before they enable the patch again if ever.
3. And most interesting, if the anti-bot patch is turned off, then the OpenKore dev team won’t have a “guinea pig laboratory” to test if their bot can work or not. They won’t have the real server with the anti-bot patch to test on. Now I don’t know how OK team actually does their job. They could have a simulated server to test on for all I know, but Valkyrie server is still the real thing.
And that my friends, as they say, is that. Only God knows what will happen next…
56 Comments Received
November 16th, 2007 @6:45 am
From what I can understand about the history of the encrypted packets, they already began noticing it when it first appeared in one of kRO’s servers and so it’s been months since the encrypted packets were analyzed and only recently did they get the formula right. I’m not sure if they have been able to test it outside of the kRO server it was found in, but pRO’s always been known as one of the testing grounds for bots due to its accessibility and the number of [jobless/bored/enthusiastic/psychopathic/whatever] programmers churned out by our country.
November 16th, 2007 @8:18 am
quoted:
[Now this is where the plot thickens. Sometime on late Judgment Day (Nov. 15) it looks like Level Up disabled the anti-bot patch as I’ve read on the Darkmoon boards that bots can indeed enter the server again just like last normal times.]
So, the anti-bot patch is disabled, meaning bots are free to roam Valkyrie now?
November 16th, 2007 @9:08 am
They’re up and running in full strength (talking about the bots)
November 16th, 2007 @10:29 am
I don’t know if MD read well the notes in DM…
Its not really a guinea pig thing….
if done properly OK should be running well
without getting DC..
sorry to say
but MDs analysis may have been…
well off tangent now
November 16th, 2007 @10:33 am
mas lalu po ang master diwa’s blog sumikat dahil sa openkore vs LU na issue..
November 16th, 2007 @10:54 am
hmm. why a point for the midgard police if they are still not hired?
November 16th, 2007 @1:07 pm
IMO this “war” thing exists only on your minds. OK doesn’t care if botters are banned (in fact, if the bot armies would stop their deeds it’s a win-win situation). It’s not LU! vs. bots - it’s LU! vs. botters.
But following your “war” analogy, maybe LU! did win against botters - but only the dumb ones (which I should say is the bane of developers, sucking up development time just to support imbeciles who can’t even follow simple instructions). The patch works - in rRO where Gravity also implemented packet prefixes but no GameGuard, OpenKore works flawlessly. The GM team in rRO has one up over LU! GM team though - they were successfully able to exploit bugs in OpenKore to catch bots.
Yralyn, sorry to disappoint you, but it wasn’t Filipinos who cracked the algorithms
It was a brilliant Ukranian who created an algo without even a single connection attempt to pRO servers (amazing and almost unbelievable if you weren’t there to witness hist train of thought in IRC) - he just looked at the kRO exe. Sadly, Filipinos’ role in OK are mostly support and administration - the programming aspect is handled more by international developers uninterested in our little local drama.
But hoping that your statement about programmers was true, don’t you think there is an even bigger problem? If Filipinos are indeed talented, why is it that they can’t even get good job comparable to other countries? Perhaps this is a more obvious symptom of what is happening in our country - abusive players, abusive government.
Time to look at the forest, guys.
November 16th, 2007 @1:23 pm
It’s obvious that “Master Diwa” is sucking Waukeen’s cock here.
November 16th, 2007 @1:24 pm
Thanks for posting kali.
The “war” isn’t really over yet, LU might have won this recent battle, but there is really more to come.
@Borky
LOL. I don’t really need to kiss anyone’s ass not even my friend Waukeen’s. There’s nothing to gain anyway, and besides this is just my opinion. If you don’t like it, you can always write your own.
November 16th, 2007 @2:03 pm
@MASTERDIWA
Correction - The updated version of Openkore (Nov 15) from DARKMOON works 100% WITHOUT the 30 sec disconnection. Just run poseidon correctly and limit your bot to 3 (depends on your CPU) so the poseidon program wont crash. TRY IT AND PROVE YOU’RE WRONG.
November 16th, 2007 @2:12 pm
Thank you too MD for not censoring posts
If I may make some corrections:
No, LU! did not turn off the packet prefix encryptions. Most likely they added additional servers to handle the number of accounts online (in case you didn’t know, servers are grouped into “zones” that handle a particular area - say all of the prontera fields on zone). It could be that they switched offline some map servers, added new servers to the mix, then switched the whole thing.
Also, the anti-bot patch by kLabMouse was flawless. It’s just a shame that 80% of OK’s userbase are morons who can’t even follow simple instructions
That is why heero had to “update” his instructions - in fact, there was already an archive called openkore_ready.zip made by isieo which is a download-unzip-run package. Even *then* morons still can’t make the bot work 
Personally I’d prefer if LU! stops experimenting with Valkyrie and testing anti-bot patches here and there, and just stiffen up their backbones and actually ban botting customers. Really, a single Vanguard going to a respawn point will immediately see numerous bots sitting. Some bots are obviously bots and don’t even *try* to behave like human beings - and yet they still live.
November 16th, 2007 @2:13 pm
Oh yeah, and Poseidon was designed as a network server - meaning a single Poseidon instance on a computer from the US can service multiple OpenKore requests from computers in the Philippines. Just thought you’d like to know how a few shop owners manage to bot armies.
November 16th, 2007 @2:46 pm
@Kali
Thanks for the insights, and welcome.
@Taogunka
My analysis is based on my distant observations without getting to much involved in both sides. So naturally, I will get corrected on the details. However, my stand on this post will remain as is. And like I said, you are always free to write your own analysis if you didn’t like mine. Thanks for the info though.
November 16th, 2007 @3:18 pm
@Master Diwa
You’re making the Openkore team look bad, Im just saying the patch made by heero and klabmouse works fine. Lets not try to be one sided here… peace!!
You’ll stand on your post even though it’s not true…..
November 16th, 2007 @3:25 pm
Whatever’s written in this article has been thought by myself before you guys posted any corrections. So it remains that way because that was what I saw and learned before I knew any the these intricate details explained by kali. And if ever I’ll be applying the info you gave me in my articles, it would have to be in a possible future post and not this one. If you’ve been reading my past posts re: the “war”, you’ll see that I’ve been neutral as possible. Even Kali confirms that.
link: http://diwa.makiling.ph/category/war-of-the-bots/
And by the way, if I was really being one sided here then I should have deleted yours and kali’s comments. Which I could do in one click, but I chose not to.
November 16th, 2007 @3:34 pm
As far as openkore fans like me are concerned….
They deserve +1 point on their updated bot.
-Peace “MD” I don’t want any trouble…
November 16th, 2007 @3:40 pm
Then don’t start any.
This is just me talking in the article anyway. I don’t represent any official entity other than myself, so what harm can one man’s opinion do?
November 16th, 2007 @3:42 pm
My humble appologies for calling you one sided.
November 16th, 2007 @3:42 pm
No problem dude.
November 16th, 2007 @4:25 pm
Did I specifically mention that it was a Filipino that cracked the algorithm? Regardless, what really matters here is that there’s a major flaw in our society at large, where corruption is persistent everywhere: from the highest officials to even our own family members. Even if OK itself got shut down and deemed closed source (which is likely impossible), the already-existing codes would still be available for anyone with connections to download, be it from Peer2Peer or Torrent. We’re already in an age when information, once released, is difficult to control or remove due to the number of media available… and with a corrupt nation of bright minds, it’s only a matter of time before cheaters will do so much to even the most innocent of data.
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The bot device I won’t really bother with, since it could be considered an open source client that does a lot more than what the original client was intended for (and even if I wanted it out, it’s not like my word would affect those botters)… but it’s this act of cheating that I abhor, be it KSing, botting, duping, or what-not; different faces they might be, but ugly they all are.
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What saddens me more when it comes to the plight of Valkyrie isn’t the existence of bots or cheaters, but the fact that everyone seems to resort to blaming everyone else for something: botters blaming LU for their negligence, LU blaming bots for the numerous problems in the server, anti-bots blaming botters for imbalances in the economy, pro-bots blaming anti-bots for not being fair… it’s all blame this or blame that.
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But has anyone even an inkling of what Kali here meant when he made a call to action? He didn’t tell people to put action into words to give pro-botters ammunition to try and shoot down anti-botters, that much I can tell…
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… personally I think it’s a call to both sides to actually DO something OTHER THAN BICKER. Pro-botters were encouraged to actually be part of the development team as a way to say thanks to the developers, and not be the leeches that they currently are. Anti-botters were encouraged to actually BE anti-botters, to report bots, to persist in the effort against not just botting but cheating in general, and to stop with degrading the pro-botters (because stooping down to their level doesn’t make you better than them). Neutral players were invited to make a stand, to stop with the mediocrity, because if they really love their server, they would do something for it (and of course being rather biased I’d say “no to botting, no to cheating, no to harassment, and yes to community building and friendship”). And for the management to actually fix their priorities; PLDT might be holding the reigns, but LU is the one doing the walking, and so LU has to take charge not just in terms of promotions and such, but to actually make the game playable and fair for all.
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If LU had plans for a third party anti-bot they should implement it ASAP since even though botters are customers as well, they’re not paying for anything… and worthless leeches like them should be removed before they drain the blood out of the host. LU should also crack down on corruption within their own ranks, like that Anael scandal, which made a lot of players shake their heads in disbelief. And finally, they should fix their Customer Service TO SAY THE LEAST because people are already jaded by constant let-downs from their people; Customer Support is like their public relations group, and everybody knows bad PR makes bad business.
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Did I get that right kali?
November 16th, 2007 @4:36 pm
Here comes the intellectuals: kali and Yralyn. Your posts are always good stuff and I really appreciate you posting it in my blog, keep it up!
November 16th, 2007 @5:27 pm
Despite my absence in RO, I have to say I’m quite interested in the programming parts of this “battle” and the guinea pigs in the middle. Most of RB don’t even know what they’re talking about while others have some sense then get influenced by the flow, thus making the issue more redundant and make themselves stupid.
Since OK did a fairly good job in cracking the system, since most bots do not disconnect and put stress on the server, that is one indication that the delays were not made by the system itself but by, as Kali’s description, the “stupid ignorant botters”
I agree on Kali on this part: “LU! vs. botters”
And Level-Up Games IS up against “stupid ignorant botters.”
P.S.: Stupid in a way that they’re contesting a rule made by a company and posting their rantings in the game’s official forum thus opening their identity that they WILL bot and once caught, they’re back to rant some more. Ignorant in a way that they don’t read instructions and announcements prior to doing something then say that it’s someone else’s fault due to their mistake.
@Yralyn
About the CS, yes, they do suck. Trust me, it’s better to go talk to Vanguards in their office rather than talking to a copy-pasted response from someone you don’t even know that doesn’t even exists.
November 16th, 2007 @7:33 pm
Taogunkaon 16 Nov 2007 at 2:03 pm 10@MASTERDIWA
Correction - The updated version of Openkore (Nov 15) from DARKMOON works 100% WITHOUT the 30 sec disconnection. Just run poseidon correctly and limit your bot to 3 (depends on your CPU) so the poseidon program wont crash. TRY IT AND PROVE YOU’RE WRONG.
so it means Master Diwa is running a Bot Army? lol
November 16th, 2007 @8:52 pm
Well I am not really sure what you are talking about the failure of openkore but I am 100% sure that it does not dc. Where did you get that masterdiwa?? Its just that some folks in the openkore forums does not follow instructions that results to a every-30sec-dc.
November 16th, 2007 @8:59 pm
Well for me, I would say that, why not blame ourselves, instead of blaming others. Shouldn’t all of us start with ourselves before even blaming others.
I won’t tell my side, because it’s so “malabo” it’s very complicated and both sides are overpopulated by dumb people who can’t even read nor wait.
Let’s just imply taoism, and go with the flow
just my 2 cents
peace
November 16th, 2007 @9:08 pm
MD. masyado pa star feeling malakas, puro theory lang naman alam. ^__^ belat. oks paren ang mag BOT because d na ako nag pupuyat, me time na ako sa pag-aaral ko ! i love you OPENCORE you changed my life !… MD = walang work = ?
November 16th, 2007 @9:35 pm
Ah as expected, more fans.
@drwxr-xr-x
He was only daring me to try the bot for myself, which of course I won’t do because I don’t bot in Valkyrie.
@ShawerMan
For my short profile you can see this link: http://diwa.makiling.ph/about/
@all
I suggest you read all comments posted.
And as I’ve been saying before, this is a free country and anyone is entitled to his own opinion, and theories for that matter. If you don’t like what I write in my blog, you can always just ignore it, but thanks for still reading my stuff anyway. Haha!
November 16th, 2007 @9:50 pm
drwxr-xr-xon 16 Nov 2007 at 7:33 pm 23
Taogunkaon 16 Nov 2007 at 2:03 pm 10@MASTERDIWA
Correction - The updated version of Openkore (Nov 15) from DARKMOON works 100% WITHOUT the 30 sec disconnection. Just run poseidon correctly and limit your bot to 3 (depends on your CPU) so the poseidon program wont crash. TRY IT AND PROVE YOU’RE WRONG.
so it means Master Diwa is running a Bot Army? lol
@drwxr-xr-xon
please do not flame and your accusation is very stupid and low level thinking
@MD…good job man! you are really at the neutral!
November 16th, 2007 @9:53 pm
Thanks IdoNotExist, I’m used to these kinds of reactions. We can’t please everyone haha.
November 17th, 2007 @12:59 am
MD: how true
yet, being neutral is not the same as doing nothing - minor difference, but makes all the difference. Taking a stand doesn’t mean ignoring the other side. Having an opinion is different from sharing an opinion (making oneself vulnerable to criticism both good and bad).
now don’t give everything away … how would you separate the wheat from the chaff if not through the wind (that which fans the flames as well, if I might add)? Yeah LU! CS sucks bad 
Yra:
If there is indeed a war, it’s being fought with information. Which is why I like reading this blog - it gives you information, but does not restrict you from forming your own opinion. In a way, MD is fighting the war with his own methods.
At least he’s doing *something* - what have the others done lately (except whine)?
November 17th, 2007 @2:19 am
^_^; I tend to extrapolate a bit too much, don’t I? /swt And yeah, I’d like to ask that same question myself: what *have* the others done lately? Whining here, sucking up there, it’s crazy… and yet only a handful of people (like MD and Kali) are actually doing anything. I’ve been attempting to remind Waukeen about a particular entry in his blog regarding a third party anti-bot, but either he deliberately ignores my comments, or anything regarding it is hush-hush (including the abortion of its use).
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Here he mentioned of a third party anti-bot developer:
http://www.waukster.com/ragnarok-valkyrie-bot-problem-and-commercial-exp-drought/
Now my question to him has always been something to the lines of “Where is it? What happened to this 3rd party anti-bot system you’ve mentioned in your blog?”
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No replies as of yet. Which is quite sad for me since it’s a subtle whisper of darker days ahead…
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I sometimes wonder if “fair play” in pRO still exists… or has it become “all is fair in love and war”?
November 17th, 2007 @4:47 am
Kesyo manalo man ang LU or OK, talo pa rin mga players dito
November 17th, 2007 @8:24 am
Shouldn’t we be calling this War of botters and LU?
November 17th, 2007 @10:17 am
Ah yes, *those* posts by Waukeen.
I’ve tried browsing the comments a bit and I saw the duped Maya and TG cards floating around. I believe I’ve mentioned this before in my blog, but I mention it again: cards don’t have serial numbers. Therefore, those duped cards may have actually survived the dupe wipe. The possessors may be selling them now because they are thinking that the Commercial servers are going down (with all the zeny rates inflating ridiculously).
Cards not having serial numbers is probably the reason why cards cannot be stored in kafra anymore.
I’ve also intimated in that post that the IT people responsible for properly shutting down the servers may have been in cahoots with the dupers - the proper shutdown procedure is to shutdown the login servers, kick all players from the map servers, then shutdown the map servers. If the second setup was “inadverdently” skipped, dupes can happen.
November 17th, 2007 @11:32 am
I DARE LU TO IMPLEMENT PACKET ENCRYPTION ON COMMERCIAL SERVERS likewise, STEP UP their MPs and I must say A complete wipeout on GMs (make an interview again. salahin niyong mabuti and must be fully devoted into serving INGAME) and recruit ITs that are REAL ITs. hindi yung pinakitahan lang kayu ng papel with beaufiul letters. scan their profile PROPERLY. Every details. Kung pwede kumuha pa sila ng barangay clearance pati na rin NBI o anu mang clearance.
That way hindi na kau aasa pa sa AI.
sabi nga ni kali
” the only way to beat Artificial Intelligence is HUMAN Intelligence, NOT another AI”
at tama sila MD
bots are working Perfectly I should say. Well tama ka opinyon mo po yan pero people reading your blogs will be/ may be misleaded. well opinyon ko lang rin naman po ito. Pero parang kampi ka po sa LU (which is correct? asking..)
My advise to you, remake this blog and just admit on your new post your mistake. As to what I can see Misleading talaga sya at the same time papogi points na ng LU ito.
@yralyn
LUG! is like the Philippines. LOL. mahirap talaga magbago sa nakasanayan na. (I am pertaining to “hanggang salita lang”)
Mukha akong antibot no? pero sa totoo, botter ako.
November 17th, 2007 @1:16 pm
customer service of lu sucks. they are like the stupid botters who dont read the openkore manual. they also give you the same scripted answers to different complaints. calling them will also get you nowhere. its either you will be put on hold or the phone keeps on ringing.
as long as OK will work dont ask me to stop.. it gives me the advantage and ill keep on using it. it is after all the war of the measures and the countermeasures.
November 17th, 2007 @2:59 pm
@kali
forgive me for being curious, but what if LU asks for your advice on particular things, would you give them a complete details of how to overcome the bugs and flaws on their part?
To make it clear about my question, asking for advice in this case is like a free consultation. And to be clear on my part, I’m not asking this for LU’s sake. I’m just curious of where you really stand since before in the interview with MD, you said you were “in the middle.”
Sorry MD for doing a question somewhat unrelated.
To be par with the topic, all I can say is that the bot program in Valkyrie seems to be connecting properly than the legit manual players trying to log in. Even MPs can’t do their jobs right due to the login problems. Just making things clear for those people who rant and complain in RB.
November 17th, 2007 @3:29 pm
It’s just so sad that people think a war between OK and LU doesn’t exist; when in fact, everday, “desktop wars” happen all the time. The battlefield is the information highway, and the two opposing forces continue to brandish their swords high and opposed by a few. Citizens from both sides (OK and LU) just wait and watch who’ll win.
In the end, when two elephants fight; it’s the grass that gets hurt.
-Inday, nag-eemote sa internet cafe dahil hindi makalogin after 500 tries.
November 17th, 2007 @8:12 pm
@Meow
I have no obligation to both OK or LU so I am free to write anything I want. I didn’t buy this domain to be ordered around what I can write about. I am an independent entity and I stand alone. And like I said before, hindi ko kailangan magpa-pogi kahit kanino man whether LU or OK kasi pogi na talaga ako haha! Seriously, I have nothing to benefit from both sides kahit “magpa-pogi ako ng magpa-pogi” so I don’t really see the point of you guys commenting on that. I have lots of close friends from LU as a lot of them were my ex-officemates when I was still a GM with Netgames before the merge. So I don’t really need to kiss their asses, they’re my friends for goodness sake.
@DeSquallie
I’m surprised that as a Valkyrian you don’t know hehe or you forgot. I support the banning of bots in Valkyrie and I don’t like the idea of having bots in a free to play server.
However, since it has also become my hobby to cover the issues of botting in my blog, I want both sides to be seen and heard. That’s the reason why I interviewed kaliwanagan too and not just MP Goenitz.
November 17th, 2007 @9:45 pm
@MD
And may I ask you which part are you surprised about?
If you’re talking about this statement: I’m just curious of where you really stand since before in the interview with MD, you said you were “in the middle.” This was directed to Kali, not to you.
I do know your stand against botting in Valkyrie when your forum went up. Even though people did mistake that thread announcement “The Valkyrie Realm SUPPORTS BOT BANNING!” since the “BANNING!” part was hidden due to the long title.
Maybe a slight misunderstanding on my part or a missing comma, nevertheless, I hope this will clear things up. I may have been inactive for a couple of weeks, but I do not forget people I’ve seen/met/talked to in-game and in real life. Btw, do you own that merchant MasterDiwa? Just asking, I just saw one roaming Morroc /heh
November 17th, 2007 @10:06 pm
Yup that’s me.
November 18th, 2007 @7:30 am
@meow
And… what makes you (or almost anyone else in this discussion) better than LU? You bot, fine. But are you actually helping either side or you’re just “I don’t care, fine by me”?
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Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. That’s what some people say. Now whichever side you perceive as “evil” I’ll not bother to ask, as each person has his or her own set of moralities, but if the matter at hand is: are you doing something to fight the evil?
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There’s no need to go harassing MD or anyone because of what he or she does in this Botters vs LU scenario, but I find it annoying that a lot of those who DO criticize/complain/comment only have the balls to do just that: whine, complain, harass, suck up. And nothing more.
November 18th, 2007 @9:24 pm
for me.. this so called “war of the bots” will have a red queen effect (or it already has). both openkore and LU! try to overcome one another but no one’s gaining a lead from the other and it is pointless.
November 18th, 2007 @11:00 pm
It’s what I said - in the middle. Someone once compared it to the alignment system in Dungeons and Dragons - I looked it up and it would seem that Neutral is a good description (see wikipedia). That or Chaotic Good
Oh btw, see this: http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6499/valkdchardwarekg0.png
November 18th, 2007 @11:13 pm
Whoops lol looks like I’m gonna be leaving a certain group soon
Too bad guys, it was fun chatting with you. Hope you find out who I am (doubt it).
November 18th, 2007 @11:57 pm
By the way, this is probably gonna be the last you’ll hear of me or my blog. Things are getting a lil bit too hot for me already. I may be out of circulation for the time being.
God be with ye (goodbye) everyone … for now.
November 19th, 2007 @3:28 am
I think LU will never accepts us (Botters) to play in their new Server (Valkyrie) because they believe they will never gain profits from us. They pressumed that since Valkyrie is a free-to-play server, it’s common sense that only non-botters are obliged to buy from the Armory of the Gods!!
Here they mentioned of their stand againts bots!!:
http://www.waukster.com/ragnarok-valkyrie-bot-problem-and-commercial-exp-drought/
I am very sad because i believe that this server (Valkyrie) will soon regain the lost popularity of ragnarok. If you have noticed, the server exponentially increased its players to 15,000 in just two weeks of operations and that is really amazing but now the server has also dropped exponentially to 4-5k players!! maybe the main reason for this is their harsh campaign against BOTS and some technical difficuties with the server.
I hope they will soon change their policy againts us! If not, bot at your own risk or go away and leave them in peace!!
November 19th, 2007 @4:58 am
@kali
Many thanks for posting here dude, much appreciated and good luck to whereever you’ll be going. BTW, Ottavio (the one in your screenie) is a guildmate of mine haha. Grabe ha galit na galit sya.
November 19th, 2007 @8:19 am
@lio
I won’t be surprised if the 15k that originally surged in the servers were at least a third in bots, and the main reason for the drop isn’t the harsh campain against bots (the first week that got bots out was still a good 2k in the wee hours and 6k ~ 8k peak). It’s the fact that Valkyrie is pretty much a broken server.
Doesn’t change the fact that LU wouldn’t have been pressured into putting the encrypted packets were it not for the abusive tendencies of botters in general. If people kept botting to a minimum (or even better didn’t bot at all), we wouldn’t be crapped up in Valkyrie right now.
November 19th, 2007 @8:22 am
@kali
Oh and next time double check your images before uploading them (nice bookmarks btw :p )
Take care always
November 19th, 2007 @7:01 pm
@bot problem
Suppose a population was 15k, 5k were real players, 10k bots. Just a guess in figures but after they implement that system, we now see at least 5-6k players playing.
@system
I can see that the system is limiting at least 30 logins per IP address. That would cripple bot armies and harvester bots from entering, bringing with that with people using SMART BRO shared IP address and internet cafes. I also see that the system is somewhat like the security at the entrance of a big building and that the population limit is like a car park. To those who know how hard it is to park in a free parking mall, you’d know how similar it is in Valkyrie.
@kali
I guess there was more to you than people should have expected. Expect a visitor once in awhile, more power to you and God bless.
November 19th, 2007 @7:31 pm
Problem with banning logic: if one can create accounts freely, one can bot freely. Got banned? No problem, new account, new bot on the way.
If somehow LU could refrain banned botters from getting on the server again, the story could be different. Even being a free server, it should have a CD-key or whatever to activate the account. That way, it would discourage the new-account-for-each-new-ban while giving a nice side effect for LU.
November 21st, 2007 @7:03 am
@MD
ow, you didn’t get me. I meant that this blog is a papogi-points of LU. LOL. hehehehe. but still though, I think it is kinda misleading to the other readers. kindly read it again. ^^
PEACE..
@Yralyn
I didn’t say I am better than them.
Bots too have their own stand on your comments. We all have different reasons. Maybe right maybe wrong.
I am not harassing MD. It is just wrong information put here for viewers to read. reader’s might say “ai tol wla na pla bot laro tau valk” then they play only to end up seeing bots. What would be their initial reaction? maybe “ai %&%*$&&* sinungaling pla un e” / “put your own words here” . That’s my two cents though. Of course if you stand in the middle of this war, you must give valid information. I know that is your intention, to be in the middle of this but to be in the middle, you must not be on any one’s side (Obviously) and must give the public the truth and most of all you must be fair.
lets check em: To be in the middle, you must be:
not on anybody’s side. (check)
fair. (check)
must give the public the truth (X)
It is just me though. If that’s how he wants it i’ll shut my mouth then. ^^
Peace Yralyn.
November 21st, 2007 @5:27 pm
@MASTER DIWA
PARA PO SAKEN NANALO NA PO ANG OPENKORE!! WOHOOOOOOO!!!!
December 3rd, 2007 @1:18 pm
yung iba kaya galit sa bot kasi walng pangbot!!!!!
December 20th, 2007 @10:25 am
IM TOTALLY DISSAPOINTED LU NOW IN TRY TO BECAME CALM
BUT YOUR DISTUBANCE I CANT RESIST YOU DO NOT WANT PLAYERS IN VALKYRIE TO BOT THEN ….. BEWARE AND BE ALLERT
IM GOING TO BREAK DOWN YOUR SERVER JUST GIVE ME A THREE WEEKS. IM PRETTY SERIOUS SAD TO SAY ALL YOUR PLAYERS WILL GONE. YOU SUCH A SUCKING GREED…..
START COUNTING OR SAVING FILES JUST IN 3 WEEKS……
THEY ALL GONE…..
IM FINALLY COMPLETE IT IN THREE WEEKS…
IM IN HARDVARD RESEARCHING ……
IM PLAYING PRO VALKYRIE HERE IN AMERICA….
REMEMBER 3 WEEKS
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