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Raysoul
May 26th, 2008 @12:22 am  

I think gaming will not be recognize as a SPORT.
Not until a gamer gets a higher position in a government.
It is because most people who are not gamers are perceiving gaming as hobby or a pastime rather than a competition.

The only thing I wish for is for gaming is media coverage so gaming can be recognized as a competition.

Just an opinion.

Master Diwa
May 26th, 2008 @12:42 am  

I challenge your opinion.

It is the dawn of a new era. An age of technological interactivity. It’s only a matter of time until this happens. As I said in the post, Korea, China, Japan and other countries have already adapted gaming as a sport. It’s inevitable that the Philippines will adapt it too. Maybe not today, but soon.

The negative perception is still there mostly because of parents who have no understanding of gaming. Once the gamers become the parents, expect faster changes. As of now, the momentum has just started. With very strong corporate backing from companies such as PLDT, we’re very much on the right track.

Raysoul
May 26th, 2008 @1:04 am  

still there will be the athletes complaining like “hey! they’re claiming that video game is a sport. What’s with him just sitting and mashing the buttons and that’s a sport?”

Besides most games does not include physical activities (exclude dance dance revolution, drum drum revolution and the like) unlike most sports game (exclude chess and other board games.)

I’m also a gamer and my life is nothing without it. I may not be a graduate now if not for my favorite game.

I think videogames will have a future and will be recognized someday, but sadly not as a sport.

Master Diwa
May 26th, 2008 @1:12 am  

Sports is not just about physical sports. You can also say that about Chess. “Hey he’s just moving around some plastic figures and you call that sport?” Chess is a legit sport. Sports is about COMPETITION and not all about physical fitness.

And even if certain athletes complain, there is nothing they can do once it has become a worldwide consciousness.

aids
May 26th, 2008 @1:18 am  

I support the gaming industry and its advancement. Though honestly, I won’t feel comfortable if it was part of the Olympics hehe. I’ve considered the Olympics as a showcase of the pinnacle of human physical achievement. The World Cyber Games at the same time is a showcase of another aspect of sports, which is awesome.

Oh, and I have orange hair. :p

Master Diwa
May 26th, 2008 @1:32 am  

I doubt that gamers would also want cyber sports side by side with physical sports. I for one want our own piece of the pie. The World Cyber Games is an excellent start.

Same reason why traditional sports (i.e. sipa, sepak takraw) are not really part of mainstream olympic sports. They have their own, separate events for those.

Btw, to new commenters, please refrain from focusing solely on the Philippine situation. This article discusses international perspectives.

Patatas
May 26th, 2008 @4:02 am  

I think Cybergames is of a different wavelength from traditional sports where things like sweat and Gatorade is present. The thing is that there are so many games to consider and so many categories to waddle about that my guess is that it will be considered as a different sorta competition; even if we already have undying games like the ever snappy Counter Strike or that immortal entity we call Starcraft.

Pero badtrip tong taong to; halatang hindi alam kung pano maging masaya amp. Wawa siguro to nung bata pa sya. I mean the board game “Monopoly” can not be considered a worthy sport for the Olympics pero may annual competition na ginagawa for this; and it also includes lotsa moolah. Badtrip lang siguro talaga tong taong to kasi hindi nya matanggap na mataas na talaga ang level ng creativity ng mga tao dahil meron ng kalaban ang so-called traditional sports nya…

kamote…

Master Diwa
May 26th, 2008 @4:35 am  

Videogaming is on the fast lane to becoming a widespread global phenomenon. And it’s not slowing down.

gyakkuu
May 26th, 2008 @8:30 am  

sports = skills + discipline

video games = skills + discipline + fun

video games is one point better than sports, ne?

XD

gyakkuu
May 26th, 2008 @8:40 am  

@master diwa’s #2 comment

PLDT is not that really supportive about gaming…

try to visit pldtplay.com/index.php… it’s the forum site for their online gaming portal ServerScout…

a few months ago, the adminstrator/developer of ServerScout announced that PLDT was planning to stop supporting PLDTPlay… yep. PLDT planned to put a stop on that online community because they did not want to continue funding it.

but, fortunately, PLDT did not continue shutting down the servers. thanks to thousands of pldtplay users for spamming PLDT’s customer care email add and hotline to threaten PLDT that if they would stop PLDTPlay’s operation, the later will lose thousands of subscribers.

sad but true. PLDT only thinks about money, not about the competition brought by online gaming.

Ria
May 26th, 2008 @8:50 am  

Have you watched the future weapons special episode on Discovery Channel? I realized that the really powerful future weapons in the feature made use of consoles much like that of videogames. I think there’s a big possibility that the future weapons geniuses will be gamers.

Another thing, there has been studies which showed how superior the eye-hand coordination of gamers has become. This can be very useful for future surgeons, etc.

“Baggy pants and pink hair?” Ni hindi na nga uso ang baggy pants… So out of touch naman yung views :)

Baka yung alam niya na video games ay yung mga Pac Man at game and watch na sinauna… Ehehe!

IdentityConflict
May 26th, 2008 @11:53 am  

How sorely narrow-minded.

Video games were one of the major reasons I immersed myself into sports (tennis particularly).

I’d like to see Mr. President do a DDR marathon, and see if video games are “unathletic”.

Disciple Of Pr0N
May 26th, 2008 @5:49 pm  

Nice post. For my part, I believe that people should have the right to practice their passion as a profession. If you happen to be really good at shooting balls into a hoop or kicking balls into a net, why don’t you make money out of your skill? Competitive cyber gaming (and gaming in general) should not be excepted from the same.

I believe the bias against cyber gaming is founded upon two things: that video games are fun and that video games do not always involve physical activity. Again, I return to loving what one does. I might think running miles and miles and looking skeletal, as marathon runners do, isn’t really my thing. Nevertheless, I respect and greatly admire these people who do what I can’t (and don’t really want) to do because I know how much passion they have for their sport.

It seems Mr. Rogge just did not take enough time to consider that once upon a time, many of the modern sports in the current Olympics were once plain, unproductive and even rough pastimes. Hopefully the world will move fast enough for him to still be around when he is proven wrong.

NOBODY
May 26th, 2008 @6:44 pm  

Ahm…

sports = skills + discipline

video games = skills + discipline + fun

video games is one point better than sports, ne?

HEY HOW ABOUT

VIDEO GAMES = SKILLS+ DISCIPLINE+ FUN - GOOD HEALTH - TIME MANAGEMENT

SPORTS = SKILLS+ DISCIPLINE+ FUN+ GOOD HEALTH?+TIME MANAGEMENT?+REAL AND ACTUAL FRIENDS

singkamas at ketchup
May 26th, 2008 @7:27 pm  

Ahh, good old prejudice. Rogge’s merely stereotyping the gaming industry and even the innocent gamers. Sheesh.. The corny pink hair-baggy pants combination is so obsolete. It’s an insult to us young people. No offense to those wearing pink hair and baggy pants, by the way. :)

But that’s how it is: people tend to reject new views. It’s either because humans naturally dwell in tradition or they simply cannot comprehend this “new thing”. So although annoyingly screwed his views might be, let’s forgive him for his old age. Ehehehe, sorry Lolo President… And as part of the digital era generation simply continue to enjoy videogaming as a hobby, sport, discipline, profession or however you would like it from the countless opportunities the industry may offer. It would no doubt bloom, gradually I presume, into an accepted concept and practice– the future of all good innovations.

Master Diwa
May 26th, 2008 @7:33 pm  

@Nobody

If you think you can’t make real and actual friends from gaming, then you probably haven’t even heard of ONLINE GAMING. It’s the craze nowadays. Oh by the way, I have made tons of friends thanks to online GAMING. And we all go to gimiks once in a while.

Remember, gaming is not limited anymore to the four corners of your computer/console. Everything is interconnected all around the world nowadays.

Research, research. The key to anti-ignorance.

Raysoul
May 26th, 2008 @9:34 pm  

I can now imagine a computer game called light the torch. hahahaha.

Hardcore player ako ng Soul Calibur. (di ako button masher)

Ang tanging ayoko lang sa sinabi nung Olympic president ay yung walang future ang video games.

Pero dapat i-seperate talaga ang sports sa video game.

Yralyn
June 2nd, 2008 @7:00 am  

“VIDEO GAMES = SKILLS+ DISCIPLINE+ FUN - GOOD HEALTH - TIME MANAGEMENT

SPORTS = SKILLS+ DISCIPLINE+ FUN+ GOOD HEALTH?+TIME MANAGEMENT?+REAL AND ACTUAL FRIENDS”

Ahem, Mr. NOBODY. Apparently you haven’t heard of the Wii, a gaming console that has revolutionized the gaming industry. It works via motion sensor, and so you have to move just to play almost any game.

The most popular game in the Wii console is Wii Sports, where although the games don’t emulate sports to the most minute benefits, the health benefits and fun factor is definitely still there.

No time management? Only people who haven’t learned proper time management skills wouldn’t be able to manage their time properly. I believe it’s already common knowledge that a lot of non-professional sports players (e.g. basketball) would skip classes to have a game, and while there are studies regarding computer addiction (and we already know that addicts spend their time exclusively on what they’re addicted to), there are no studies regarding the exclusivity of video gamers having no time management compared to sports.

By the way, my closest friends in real life would never have been my closest friends were it not for a daily/weekly Counter-Strike or StarCraft or Quake 3 match during my high school days… and even now I still find it REALLY easy to make real life friends through gaming so long as walang pikunan kung sino man matalo o manalo sa labanan.

With the right mindset and time management skills, Video Games = SKILLS+ DISCIPLINE+ FUN + GOOD HEALTH + TIME MANAGEMENT + REAL AND ACTUAL FRIENDS

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So what does the Olympics-accepted sports have that the cybergaming community can’t offer?

Yralyn
June 2nd, 2008 @7:03 am  

Corrections on my previous post:

“The most popular game in the Wii console is Wii Sports, where although the games don’t emulate sports to the most minute [benefits] details

“there are no studies regarding the exclusivity of video gamers having no time management compared to sports players“.

ewan
June 6th, 2008 @9:06 am  

Finding someone who can match his gaming skills with his athletic/physical prowess is quite a rare combination as well excluding the hand skills of course.

Matt_
June 9th, 2008 @12:42 am  

Too Narrow, i doubt he ever played games, or should i say, too old to play one.

AngBayani
September 22nd, 2008 @11:43 pm  

im an avid gamer myself but no matter what those gaming companies say, gaming can never be a sport
thats why they add an e before the word sport (e-sport)

*chess is not a sport (it’s game)

separate both worlds…
Cyber gaming will never be legitimized as real sports in the REAL world

there’s a reason why they call it gaming

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